tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post114623646204774794..comments2023-10-29T10:32:36.914-04:00Comments on Philosophy, et cetera: Dead OrgansRichard Y Chappellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16725218276285291235noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-1149394093630339372006-06-04T00:08:00.000-04:002006-06-04T00:08:00.000-04:00Would it be immoral to use corpses as seat fillers...Would it be immoral to use corpses as seat fillers for Cincinatti Reds games or is it immoral to have the Cincinatti Reds play at all?Demain66https://www.blogger.com/profile/18038925585812828900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-1146307869952461792006-04-29T06:51:00.000-04:002006-04-29T06:51:00.000-04:00A non utilitarian might ask the question where do ...A non utilitarian might ask the question where do you stop? <BR/>If I can take your organs against your will or presume they are available what else should htey be able to do and assume you agree? <BR/>What is the system that prevents that becoming a nightmare scenario?<BR/><BR/>Anyway it all depends on how we feel about the situation for example where an immigrant comes to NZ and is not told all the complex things that they might want to opt out of and in an accident suddenly find their families bodies are being used in a way contrary to their religion.<BR/>I expect that in a democracy this is likely to "trump" the alternative - a lack of organs - because of it's nature.<BR/><BR/>In a place like China it doesn't - by the way was the Chinese use of criminals organs what make you think along these lines?Geniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624496692217466430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-1146276619455043532006-04-28T22:10:00.000-04:002006-04-28T22:10:00.000-04:00I'm in complete agreement that donating should be ...I'm in complete agreement that donating should be the default. I'm not sure about the practicality of Sage's suggestion to have "Do Not Donate Organs" cards, but I recognise that there has to be some method in place for respecting peoples choices, however unreasonable we may think them to be.<BR/><BR/>I also think that the power of vito of next-of-kin should be removed. In Australia and New Zealand at least, even if the deceased person has given their consent to organ donation after their death, the next-of-kin can still decide not to let it happen.<BR/><BR/>Now, surely leaving a dead body intact is for the benefit of the family/loved ones of the dead person, to assist grieving as Sage said. But if someone's decided that they want to donate their organs after their death their family and friends must respect that.<BR/><BR/>So I think their both important things to consider, since of people who have registered to be donors less than <A HREF="http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/16d33563bd5c555cca2570ec000ace6c!OpenDocument" REL="nofollow">40%</A> end up donating due to next-of-kin vitoing the decisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-1146272644410503692006-04-28T21:04:00.000-04:002006-04-28T21:04:00.000-04:00I agree that donating should be the default positi...I agree that donating should be the default position, and people should have to constantly carry "Do Not Donate Organs" cards if they really want to be buried or cremated intact. I'm thinking of cases also in which medical authorities can't find a card on the deseased, and have to search for a family member to get consent before operating. By this time, it might be too late to use any organs. They should be able to take anything unless they find something on the person that states explicitly otherwise.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, it always seems odd to me that it tends to be religious folks who want to die intact. If I believed in a dualist notion that my body is just a container for my mind, and that a special substance (of non-substance) will leave my body to live eternally in another dimension or whatever, then why would I need my body in one piece? If at the moment of death, the important stuff all floats up to heaven, then it makes more sense for me to say, "Do what you will with the corporeal bits; they all mean nothing to me now."<BR/><BR/>However, I do think keeping organs should be an option as some people find the ritual of kissing the dead good-bye at the funeral really helpful to the grieving process. It's a decision more for those being left behind than for the actual deceased. Let's not slam them for their practices too much.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481252201307998355noreply@blogger.com