tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post111802040230240455..comments2023-10-29T10:32:36.914-04:00Comments on Philosophy, et cetera: Utility and Just DesertsRichard Y Chappellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16725218276285291235noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-1118022819364970842005-06-05T21:53:00.000-04:002005-06-05T21:53:00.000-04:00"utilitarianism is not a comprehensive theory of j..."utilitarianism is not a comprehensive theory of justice, and requires supplementation"<BR/><BR/>*looks at richard in a confused manner*<BR/>I see no reason for conflict or suplplementation. When faced with any problem there is the utility optimizing solution and "the other solution" any attempt to follow the other solution is a move away from utility optimization.<BR/>there is no need to fear that this will create some odd situation where people who deserve things never get them and then there is no incentive to be good because the reason it is disturbing is that it doesnt maximise utility and thus shouldnt be chosen.<BR/><BR/>Obviously utilitarianism cant be all about maximising utility for some limited set for example if you used the tiniest system available it would just be libiterianism. It must be (in its ideal form) maximising utility for everyone (the whole system over all time) and as such is an all encompassing philosophy that results in a world that almost certainly is reasonably fair (because in general fairness works).<BR/><BR/>> Justice is whatever the utility calculations yield.<BR/><BR/>I think this confuses concepts - a honest utilitarian should be able to admit that utilitarianism doesn't result in "justice" as most would see it.<BR/><BR/>You sort of get close to the point with Rescher.. <BR/>But my point is how can you posibly even contemplate not considering that sort of logic? without some use of the past you cant even tell your actions will have an effect so you can't even begin utility calculations. If you use the past to determine that your actions have effects how can you jsutify not using it to determine how people will act and what they will do if you benefit them etc?Geniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624496692217466430noreply@blogger.com