<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post136135289079028564..comments</id><updated>2009-10-10T13:20:11.394-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Philosophy, et cetera: Callous vs. Caring Consequentialists</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/feeds/136135289079028564/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html'/><author><name>Richard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16725218276285291235</uri><email>r.chappell@gmail.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-6253978425497583508</id><published>2009-10-06T09:51:03.486-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-06T09:51:03.486-04:00</updated><title type='text'>While I don't reject utilitarian thinking across t...</title><content type='html'>While I don&amp;#39;t reject utilitarian thinking across the board, I don&amp;#39;t think you can chart out &amp;quot;action-rules&amp;quot; for all situations --are you discussing how rational agents should act at the grocery store or mall, or say during a riot, or in New Orleans after Katrina?  It&amp;#39;s completely context-less. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even most rule-U. types agree to the rule about breaking rules--rules are a subset of acts, or something.  I would say the same holds re &amp;quot;dispositions&amp;quot;, whether desire, or rational-based (rules of thumb either way). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sort of see what your attempting to do via rationality, but I don&amp;#39;t think you can establish that via the agent, or really anything except subjective desire-based values, which can be altered as needed.  A contractualist like Rawls does at least suggest a way around the subjective impasse  by means of the Veil of Ignorance--not that the VoI would be of much avail after a Katrina...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/6253978425497583508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/6253978425497583508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html?showComment=1254837063486#c6253978425497583508' title=''/><author><name>J</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-136135289079028564' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/posts/default/136135289079028564' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-8546307106301413486</id><published>2009-10-05T12:06:51.158-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T12:06:51.158-04:00</updated><title type='text'>J - I'm just not addressing that question.  It's a...</title><content type='html'>J - I&amp;#39;m just not addressing that question.  It&amp;#39;s &lt;i&gt;assumed for sake of argument&lt;/i&gt;. You might be more interested in that prior question than you are in the question I&amp;#39;m addressing in this post. Nonetheless, if you wish to engage with &lt;i&gt;this post&lt;/i&gt;, you need focus on the precise issue I&amp;#39;m tackling, not the prior issues of whether you accept utilitarianism and moral rationalism. (Importantly, the structural point I&amp;#39;m making doesn&amp;#39;t really rely on either of those assumptions -- they just make it easier to state. But you could easily replace the general rule I&amp;#39;ve given as an example with any other general rule you personally accept, or you could replace any mention of &amp;#39;rationality&amp;#39; with the notion of an &amp;#39;evidence-relative moral obligation&amp;#39;. By focusing on these simplifying assumptions, you  end up missing the point.)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/8546307106301413486'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/8546307106301413486'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html?showComment=1254758811158#c8546307106301413486' title=''/><author><name>Richard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16725218276285291235</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='17860163350052839660'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-136135289079028564' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/posts/default/136135289079028564' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-7030508676262337497</id><published>2009-10-05T10:57:45.250-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T10:57:45.250-04:00</updated><title type='text'>""This transmission principle holds only when the ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;This transmission principle holds only when the &amp;#39;rationality-enhancing&amp;#39; disposition serves as a generally reliable &amp;#39;rule of thumb&amp;#39;, like the rule against killing people even when murder might (prima facie) seem to promote utility.&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&amp;#39;re begging the question on obligation, again--some might agree to that &amp;quot;rule&amp;quot;; some might not. Not to say assuming that ethics has something to do with rationality--even utilitarians said otherwise.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/7030508676262337497'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/136135289079028564/comments/default/7030508676262337497'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html?showComment=1254754665250#c7030508676262337497' title=''/><author><name>J</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/10/callous-vs-caring-consequentialists.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642011.post-136135289079028564' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6642011/posts/default/136135289079028564' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>